[personal profile] mondat posting in [community profile] dragoncavers
From TJ's post:
Hello all,

The usual monthly release will be delayed a few hours. I'm going to try something new: doing a release during a time when the main audience of the site is actually awake (rather than, you know, at midnight).

Specifically, the new release will happen at 1 PM EST tomorrow. Let's see how it goes.


For me, the new drop time will be at 3am on Monday morning, this means I could catch them right after waking up. And I cannot believe that TJ did not announce such news at least 12 hours earlier, again. There are people who wake up early or have plans changed for the release.

Anyway, I have a question regarding the May release.
Do you think there will be a giant release like in May last year because of DC's birthday? I'm not sure if I should prepare myself and getting me more Red & Pink Dragons...and I have no idea how to deal with it if there will be one, with all the eggs...

Date: 2014-04-07 01:22 am (UTC)
nakuru: (Higurashi - Hanyuu)
From: [personal profile] nakuru
To be more precise, for me it's more several issues that combined are just too much.

Starting with the way they were released (in a middle of a gigantic release and were mixed with other eggs a few hours later), their supposed rarity vs. their real rarity and the how their breeding is supposed to work vs. how their breeding is working now.

Though mostly, I'm just annoyed (more now than during the release, tbh) because I have spent at least an hour almost every day since December trying to catch a Verdigis to influence male (I like having at least on CB pair and now I also have two dragons that need a male CB one as mate it would be only one if it wasn't for the breeding issues, since more than one person has tried to help me getting a 2nd gen one, to make a checker instead of a stair, without any luck) and I have seen more CB Golds during that time.



And this ended being rather TL;DR venting. Sorry.

I see your venting, and raise you. :D

Date: 2014-04-07 07:57 pm (UTC)
krait: a sea snake (krait) swimming (Default)
From: [personal profile] krait
Yes, the Coppers are a pretty notable example of "how not to do a metallic release", overall! *facepalming* In sum: three versions + part of a multi-release + middle of that multi-release + extremely short drop time + unsupported reassurances of non-rarity.

Honestly, I'm especially annoyed by the creator coming in to assure everyone that they're not rare, as though 1- the creator can say that with any level of truthful certainty (does TJ let creators set the ratios for the Cave? Does he even tell them what the exact ratio is at any given time? I think not.) and 2- as if a pat assurance from someone who's not in charge of the site is a viable counter to the experiences of dozens/hundreds of players.

You didn't intend for them to be rare? Great; tell that to the fifty people who haven't seen one in the Cave for three months, and see just how much credit they give you. Have you noticed that, on the Forums, they're being traded as though they're equivalent to a CB Gold? Have you tried trading for one when you don't have a CB Gold to offer? Go on, try it, and let us know how it works out for you. Then come back and inform me that they're "not as rare as metals." *eyerolling*

I feel like it was just throwing fuel on the flames, basically. If players are upset about something and want explanations, well, this whole site is TJ's show. TJ is the only one with the authority to make definitive statements about aspects of how the Cave is run. I don't know whether the creator decided on their own recognizance to issue statements, or whether TJ approved that move, but it was a bad decision on both their parts either way.
Edited Date: 2014-04-07 07:58 pm (UTC)

Re: I see your venting, and raise you. :D

Date: 2014-04-08 01:41 am (UTC)
nakuru: (Higurashi - Hanyuu)
From: [personal profile] nakuru
*nods*
Everything related to Coppers was handled in such a bad way. If only TJ would have said upfront "yes, they're the new rares" it would be less frustrating.

I'm willing to accept they seem to have better breeding ratios than other metallics though. But that doesn't make them less rare as CB. And the trading market is ridiculous; I have seen more than once people trading one CB Verdigis and asking for more than one CB Gold/Silver.

I can't understand how some people still insist they aren't rare...

Coppers and the market place are two of the three things in DragonCave that make me rant at length.

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