Lurker!

[mondat]

This is going to be my first Halloween and I just hope everything will go well. I killed 5 adult dragons on the 17th and will kill other 5 on the 31st to get hopefully 1 Undead Dragon at least - the killing was..."ok". But the message is really nasty!

My real problem is catching up on the past Halloweens because I don't know what to expect. TJ hasn't stated yet when the breeding season starts, but I heard it started on 25th last year. So the AP eggs drop a few days later right?

And, is here anyone who has a CB Cavern Lurker lady which would be free during Halloween period? I found this 2nd gen Brimstone in the AP today and influenced it become a male. I am not a fan of Lurkers overall and don't plan to catch many of them but, a perfect mate for him would be nice. I could breed anything on my scroll for it.

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[codyne]

I got a Zombie on my very first try, three years ago. I just used some gigantically inbred dragons I had on my scroll that I decided at the last minute to sacrifice. I killed three more after the first success, lost them all, and then decided one was enough and have never tried again. I'm glad I have my one, but that's it for me!

I also have CBs of all the past dragons and some pretty lineaged ones as well. I only have plans for a few and will have plenty to breed on request. Once breeding rolls around, I'll probably post what I have available. You'll be able to find lots of good stuff in the AP, too.

[mondat]

Zombie on the first try, wow! But you seem to really dislike killing dragons - well, who doesn't?
I couldn't kill my CB adult dragons because I am still collecting them and they seem more precious the longer they stay on my scroll so I tried with non-caveborns first.
I had messy and high-gen Tinsel-/Shimmerkin from the AP prepared but with the exception of 1 all dodged (>_<). And as I wanted to have 10 tries for Undeads I needed to kill 5 dragons on the 17th, no matter how - still, they weren't CB and I didn't take dragons which I received as a gift or which had a lineage which took hard effort to build.
I might try for a CB adult Zombie next year, depending on this year's result. I rather like the Undead.
I am also going for CB Zombie hatchlings this year, started to collect eggs from the AP to hatch & fog them until they die so they can be revived on Halloween. They're at the end of my scroll so I don't have to see them, though.

I am looking forward to searching for nice lineaged Halloween dragons in the AP but I will definitely take a look on your list if you post it :)
I am mostly interested in any lineage with Marrows at the moment. Other than the Brimstone from my entry, I only have this 3rd gen Seawyrm Pygmy with Pumpkins I hope to catch a mate for (considering Pumpkins can only breed with Pumpkins and Pygmies I think the chances aren't too low that I can get one in the AP).

(If you don't have plans for a CB Lurker lady please please please please consider breeding it with a male Brimstone! :P)

[codyne]

Yeah, I don't like killing dragons. Although I'm now thinking of trying for a female to go with my male Zombie this year. I'm sure I've got some spare female dragons I could use. I don't kill in advance, I'll just wait until the day and see how I feel about it.

I did kill two dragons to make a deadline once. I bred them specifically for killing, and I left them unnamed so I wouldn't get attached. (I made the mistake of breeding one and naming him "L17", thinking it was just a designation, not a name, and I'd be able to kill him later, but I couldn't. So he's still on my scroll.) Both of them evaded two or three times before I finally managed to kill them -- that wasn't fun! I wanted to do it that one time, but now I'm done with deadlines, too!

I've also let numerous eggs die in failed Neglected experiments, but somehow I don't mind killing eggs, they're not really dragons yet.

I do have one extra Cavern Lurker female I'd be happy to breed with a Brimstone for you. I should probably start going through my dragons now and start my list. I have a few I'll be keeping for my own lineage plans, but most will be available for requests.

[mondat]

Good luck to you if you decide to try for a female Zombie! :)

Oh, what kind of deadline did you want to create?
Until recently I didn't care about them, but after sacrificing dragons for the first time I thought I could try them, too.
I have 4 adult Shimmers (3 Bronze, 1 Silver) from the AP which I wanted to give a home despite their lineages but which I cannot properly use to be honest - but I could make use of their offspring. 2 are messy, 1 is misgendered (caught it as a hatchling) and with dragons I couldn't continue anyway and 1 is with Valentine dragons I cannot continue.
I was thinking of creating pretty "fake" EGs or 3rd gen PB Shimmer(s).
Their deaths won't be in vain...this is what I am telling to myself.

You have a Neglected I am jealous of! I did try to create one once only but I will try again!
Can I ask you when you decided to put it to click sites back then?

[codyne]

I went through my scroll and picked out 6-7 female dragons I could sacrifice if I wanted to try for a female Zombie this year. A few extras in case one of them dodges, so I can just go on to the next one. We'll see!

This is my deadline: Silver Fox Grave, a Silver Tinsel x Silver checker with Shadow Walker bases. I made it before TJ changed it so that dead dragons retain their lineages behind the tombstones, so the tombstones are unclickable. I think it turned out really pretty, but I'm not really into deadlines, so I just wanted to try it that once.

As for my Neglected, my notes say that the egg was an AP grab with approximately 11 hours left and stats of 32/14/15. It was added to 8 ERs and 3 refreshers at 1 minute 45 seconds left, and hatched with stats of 1117/113/17. Back when I was experimenting, there were a lot more ERs and they were less stuffed with AP eggs, so eggs could get more views in a short period of time.

In order to figure out when to ER, I took a couple of low-time eggs and timed them, stuffing them into all the ERs I could find and watching to see how long it took them to hatch. A 15-minute egg took around two minutes to hatch. So I ERed one at two minutes, and it hatched normally. I kept reducing the time until I got one to turn, which was around 1 minute 45 seconds. At that point, it was iffy whether they'd get enough views to hatch. You want them right on the edge of survival. Too few views, and they'll just run out of time and die. Too many, and they'll hatch without turning. But it's always a juggling act, because each egg is different, and you can never control the exact amount of views they get.

Maybe I'll start experimenting again (after Halloween, of course). I haven't had much to do on Dragon Cave lately, so it would be something else to play with.

[mondat]

Wow, 'neglected science' is all I can say!
Thank you so much for your explanation!
I put my egg - which I got from the cave - into 7(?) click sites when it had 5 minutes left and it died. How you did it sounds definitely more...what shall I say, "professional"?
I wonder if the hatching time depends on the dragon breed? Maybe I should try it your way, take eggs from the same breed and see after how many minutes they hatch..
I keep saying to myself to make more ND experiments, but collecting has more priority at the moment. ;C

P.S.: Your deadline is VERY pretty, WOW! :)